Best Places to Work 2008: Postdocs

In a tight funding environment, institutions must find creative ways to improve postdoc benefits and foster a thriving scientific atmosphere.

By Jonathan Scheff

Postdoctoral fellows used to be called "the lost tribe of science," says Graham Dockray, a physiologist at the University of Liverpool. "They were often neglected and not always appreciated. That's changing." Since 2004, the university's Rising Stars Scheme has recognized particularly promising young researchers with guaranteed academic positions when their postdocs are finished.

That's just one example of how institutions that rank at the top of The Scientist's sixth annual survey - Best Places to Work: Postdocs - have improved the postdoc experience. Liverpool, for example, ranked second. The University of Alberta, ranking seventh among international institutions, formed a university-sanctioned postdoc association in 2007. Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute, ranked 12th in the United States, recently added dental insurance for its postdocs, in response to their request.

Only 36% of postdocs were born in the country where they are doing their postdoc

The Whitehead Institute, placing 14th this year, announced in January that it is giving first-year postdocs a $9,000 raise and will contribute as much as 8% of their salary to a retirement account. "We view postdocs as colleagues in training," says David Page, director of Whitehead. They "are the single largest group of scientists at the Whitehead Institute. To a very large degree, the science that the Whitehead Institute does is the science that the postdocs do."

Strong Programming Wins

"The funding climate is just getting tighter and tighter," says Michael Berumen, a postdoc at Woods Hole. "Some funding areas are funding less than 10% of proposals." With tighter funding, institutions need to find creative ways to provide the facilities, training, and benefits that postdocs say are most important.

A scientist at the Samuel Roberts Noble Foundation working on the legume genomics project.

Most of the institutions in this year's top 15 US list are private or government institutions that do not depend mainly on government grants. Rick Willis at second-ranked National Jewish Medical and Research Center, for example, works in a lab that the Howard Hughes Medical Institute funds. "So money is not a huge worry," he says. Li Tian, a postdoc in the plant biology division of the eighth-ranked Noble Foundation, receives internal funding, as does 55% of her division. "We don't have to be so stressed out about grants," she says. Government agencies work from a research budget, rather than individual grants. "We don't need to worry year to year whether we're going to get funding," says William Mundy, a neurotoxicologist with the 11th-ranking Environmental Protection Agency in Research Triangle Park, NC.

Although the budget crunch might not always directly affect postdocs, the overall environment affects how they view their future prospects, says David Evans, a microbiologist at Alberta. "When they see really good faculty not getting grants and working really long hours and desperately worrying about their careers, that does bad things for the environment," says Evans. He emphasizes the importance of maintaining morale for postdocs. "Obviously you don't want to lie to people, but you want to present a balance."

Evans tries to create that balance by exposing postdocs to career opportunities that are outside the traditional academic track. This year 19% of our survey's respondents said they expect to be working in industry two years from now, up from 15.5% in 2007. Most of the top institutions in the survey now offer a seminar series or similar programs to introduce their postdocs to professionals from academia, government, industry, law, education, or journalism.

A Nurturing Culture

Discussion of compensation, benefits, and future prospects have become commonplace in the current climate. As postdocs spend longer time in training positions, their priorities have started to change. For the second consecutive year, respondents ranked questions of "Family and Personal Life" as more important than "Training and Mentoring" and "Networking Opportunities." Nonetheless, postdocs still value institutions that offer environments where they can work on their projects efficiently and receive expert guidance. "I think the culture of an institution really does matter," says Page. "Most biomedical and research institutions in recent decades have been trying to grow as fast as possible with almost no heed to the culture."

"In academia, scientists go in knowing "you'll have to submit your first proposal, and resubmit it and resubmit it. But people stay because they really love what they do."
-Sophie Lasalle, Jackson Laboratories"

Some institutions have countered this trend by intentionally limiting their size. Jackson Laboratories eliminated departments from its internal organization to promote interactivity, but the change also limits how much the institution can grow, says director Richard Woychik. The lack of departmental silos is important for postdoc development, he says. Those divisions "create a tension that must reflect on the training experience." Although the Jackson Labs has only 51 postdocs, "our scientists don't have to set up their own microarray facilities," Woychik says. "They don't have to prepare their own blastocysts for knockout mice." All facilities, from FACS sorting to targeted mutagenesis to SNP genotyping, are already in place for postdocs to use. "It allows them to get things done," he says.

Smaller institutions need to ensure that they provide the resources of larger ones, either directly or through collaboration. This year's respondents say that the most important factor in determining the best place to work was the quality of facilities and infrastructure.

The best institutions vary in their culture, benefits, and funding, but they all give postdocs first-rate professional development. As postdocs continue to organize, they will continue to earn more consistent benefits from their employers. Says Evans: "I think the image of this poor, hairy postdoc who's going to work like a dog for 18 hours a day is no longer viable."



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Yes...Post-docs - Slaves in the Science Community
by anonymous poster

[Comment posted 2009-02-24 16:43:30]
Yep, i agree with the few who have put in their thoughts before me. Most of the post-docs are considered as slaves and are temporary workers. So, technically the bosses do not really have to have a very nice and warm relationship with their post-docs.Also the benefits are really not there, especialy the visa status. Most of the post-docs are international students who get their doctorate degrees in the US and the post-doc positions are either in Universities or National Labs. Both Universities and Labs will not do greencards and try to exploit the postdoc with the NON-PROFIT H1B visa for these purposes. The postdocs can neither get a GC sponsored nor use this H1B to get a job in a company. Total useless H1's that they give to the post-docs.

Disadvantages of being a post-doc are numerous. Hope someone takes notice and brings some form of fair salary structure, benefits, and standard visa status atleast to maintain the edge US has in Science. I am already seeing a slow migration of the scientific community to other parts of the world from US, which is going to be a big disadv for US in future.

After struggling to get their doctorate degrees, we feel that we have accomplished something for the love of science, but in the end we get the short end of the stick.
Far less benefits than someone who had worked in a company for the period we took to complete graduate school (MS, PhD) and postdoc (amounts to atleast 7-8yrs of experience for a person with Bachelors degree).
If i had a time machine, i would have definitely taken a job right after my bachelors. Just because it saves lots of time, and the sacrifices and sleepless nights during qualifiers, various lab experiments and defense are JUST NOT WORTH IT.
I definitely would advise someone to think million times, re-think another million times before signing in for ?What a Waste of Time 101?, ?Slavery 202? ?It Does Not Pay You Good 301? and ?Non-doctorate friends all have settled in their career, while you are stuck 401?





post doctrol works-Inculcate Prof.Hardy temeperament
by anonymous poster

[Comment posted 2009-01-01 23:04:28]
Inculcate PROF.HARDY TEMPERAMENT:
The best opportunity is to asess the research scholar and his contnuity and persuasive qualities .Nobel winner Barbra Dorothy at Oxford was the typical observer at oxford ,She was neglected as a female but won the nobel prize for her continued effort in crystallography.My papers on helium laser biostmulation by crystal lattice debrogle reflections for curing genetic disceases is being neglected even after my repeated reminders on importance of chromydynamic crystal lasing using helium-neon crystal lased biostimulation with reference to multi optic wave modulator has not been given importance.my suggestion to incorporate amethyst as ferro magnetic optic lattice in tv screens and computer screens to ward off the depression was not given a feedback and appreciation.Appreciation is a great tonic ,now days being neglected by all people ,the university professors and lack of appreciation is a virus character .Remember the PROF. Hardy temperament that appreciated Ramanujan on mathematics



It Wouldn't Be So Bad ....
by anonymous poster

[Comment posted 2008-11-26 17:08:22]
If postdocs ended up with tenured positions at academia, after all their sacrifices for up to 7 years. But, that's not even a common outcome anymore. So, one gets exploited as a cheap labor during predoctoral traing and afterwards during postdoctoral training, with no good guidance and help towards becoming an independent research professor on a tenured track by one's advisor or mentor. How many people would risk so many years of their lives for so little return in research science, then? Like someone mentioned below, I would have NEVER pursued my doctorate in science, had I known how I would end up - a cheap labor to be exploited by a lazy, arrogant, selfish professor who didn't care about my future at all. This is in the U.S., by the way.



New university
by anonymous poster

[Comment posted 2008-05-25 04:31:39]
Hi All
"Governor Mark Sanford, evidently at the request of the White House, asked that the president be invited to speak at Furman?s commencement. President David Shi met with senior class leadership -- the presidents of various student organizations, including the retiring president of student government who actively supports Senator Clinton -- for their views. They agreed that it would be a memorable event to have a sitting president address their class. (The senior class did not 'vote unanimously' for the invitation.) Although attendance at graduation is expected by Furman faculty, there is no 'contractual agreement.'" http://www.lazer-epilasyon-merkezi.org
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Underpaid and undervalued.
by anonymous poster

[Comment posted 2008-03-17 10:11:53]
I agree with Dr Partridge's comments. Postdocs are little better than underpaid indentured slaves of professors till the publications come out. The profs are mostly (barring a few exceptions) concerned about furthering their own careers, based on the sweat shops that they run using the postdocs mainly from Asia and Russia, who are paid a pittance and usually grin-and-bear it all since they are totally dependent for their visa status on the professor and the University. It is time that these people got smart and negotiated a visa and salary deal with the Universities concerned before getting in. If something is not done soon to address these problems, tight funding and pathetic salaries in the United States, coupled with much better incentives and working conditions in Asia, Europe and Australia due to enhanced economies, will further accelerate the declining scientific leadership of the United States.




Brighter future for Scientists?
by Shanthi Raam

[Comment posted 2008-03-11 16:49:40]
It is good to see that the importance of financial stability for post-docs is being fully recognized. Financial instability of emerging professionals (doctors, lawyers, engineers etc.) is not seen in any other profession. Scientists are in the profession of discovery and it is high time that they are recognized and rewarded as such. The latest announcement that Howard Hughes Institute is "employing" 70 mid career scientists with a six year support is gratifying to hear (The Scientist -March issue). All research institutes, rsearch industry, for-profit/non-profit academic institutes and the government entities need to stop linking the scientists just to the project they are involved in at any particular time to grade their importance; instead consider them as "discovery- professionals" whose training and expertise are needed every day and are crucial to the well-being of our society.



time in training positions
by anonymous poster

[Comment posted 2008-03-11 13:12:30]
I agree with the previous post that salaries are too low for the type of degree that postdocs have received. Furthermore, too much time is spent in training positions beginning with graduate school. Training positions should be structured more efficiently to achieve a set of goals in a defined period of time. This means that there would actually have to be mentoring rather than exclusive self-training, as is often the case. Because of the delay in starting a career due to time spent in graduate school and as a postdoc I would not pursue a doctoral degree in science again if I had a choice.



Pay must increase
by Michael Partridge

[Comment posted 2008-03-11 13:02:58]
I agree with the previous comment. Most post-docs earn below the NIH minimum and struggle mightily to make ends meet. This from people who are highly intelligent, motivated and educated. My friends in other lines of work are appalled at what I and other scientists are paid. Furthermore, I've witnessed a number of cases where PIs are rushing to find a way to spend $10K or so on a piece of equipment before the money is taken away, so it is well within their means to pay more.

Post-docs have no representation, no recourse for poor pay or conditions and are effectively indentured until publications come out. The NIH should be ashamed for fostering the conditions under which this has occurred.




Salary and benefits
by anonymous poster

[Comment posted 2008-03-11 11:45:05]
Barring a handful of places - almost all institutes go by what is called the 'NIH scale' for a post-doc. I actually wonder how many of them meet this scale. Generally, I feel the NIH scale is a gross underestimate of a post-doc's ability. Someone with an advanced degree deserves more respect than that! They are in this enviroment because they love what they do - remember that they can be moving on and making a lot more than this 'NIH scale'.

It has to be acknowledged that most of these researchers are into their 30s, trying to start families and love doing science. At some point, this (payscales)needs to be given consideration - otherwise, we may miss a generation of scientists.