Several years ago Dr. K, a neuroscience professor at a prominent academic institution on the West Coast, found her laboratory in interpersonal disarray (she requested anonymity to protect the identities of her lab members). Lab members were clashing over a range of issues: maintenance of common equipment, cleanliness in the laboratory, and often simply the way someone communicated to another. "We'd have one person yelling, another one crying ... alliances forming, alliances shifting, people talking behind others' backs," K says. "All triggered by a lack of interpersonal skill in resolving conflict. And I didn't know how to do it." K says often she would ignore problems and trust that her lab members would work them out on their own. "I was very passive about addressing problems in lab because I always see the best in people. I would deal with things on an individual basis when I had to, but avoided dealing with things on a lab level. I stuck my head in the sand and hoped it would go away, but it didn't." When a graduate student came to K and told her that the lab was so hostile she did not want to come to work, K decided she needed to take action. But the problem, K says, was that she didn't know what to do. "I came up with some ideas and that lasted for awhile, but then things relaxed back into the previous state." The situation in her lab is not unique. "Let's face it, in a research lab there are going to be conflicts, disagreements, and interpersonal issues," says Carl Cohen, president of Science Management Associates, a consulting firm that conducts workshops for scientists on conflict resolution. "Any scientist you talk to will have one or more anecdotes. Most are almost pathetic, because we're not talking about falsifying data or being physically abusive, but [rather] hurt feelings and the dissolution of a project or collaboration." And the results of unresolved tension, Cohen adds, can be devastating to research. "Even as a postdoc myself I was involved in a project that nearly ground to a halt because of an interpersonal conflict." Ed O'Neil, a professor in family and community medicine at the University of California, San Francisco, and founder of the Science and Society Institute's lab management workshops, says it's imperative that principle investigators (PIs) pay attention to the interpersonal dynamics of their laboratories. "It takes countless hours or days to undo poorly handled interactions with a team or employee. I can't tell you if [those hours would] get invested in more or better science, but if you're not spending time putting out fires you can stay on point and be productive." Yet very few academic PIs receive training in people management and conflict resolution, says MaryRose Franko, who developed a course and handbook on scientific management at the Howard Hughes Medical Institute (HHMI) in collaboration with the Burroughs Wellcome Fund (BWF). "We've noticed from our fellows, who are top researchers in the country, when they start their own labs they are great technically and don't know the first thing about running a lab," Franko says. CREATE A LAB PHILOSOPHY
Professor K decided that to ameliorate the interpersonal dynamics of her lab she would need outside help. She attended the Science and Society Institute's leadership workshop and later sought advice from her university's ombudsman. The workshop is a one-and-a-two-day course on conflict resolution and people management. Part of the training includes a session on creating a clear lab vision. O'Neil says it is shocking how few PIs have clearly established the purpose of their research and the ways to pursue it, yet it's one of the most important elements to running a strong lab. O'Neil says to ask: "What is it we are working on here? What is my vision for how we should work together?" A clearly stated vision can help recruit members who will work best with the laboratory's stated purpose and help develop collaborations with other groups who complement the vision, O'Neil says.
About a year ago Supergen, a drug development company in Dublin, Calif., acquired Montigen Pharmaceuticals. Mike McCullar, vice president of discovery operations at Supergen, says there was a large effort toward making sure the newly acquired employees espoused Supergen's core values. "It's classical organizational theory," McCullar says. "The way to manage conflict among people is to make sure they share core values." And to do that meant amending Supergen's philosophy by folding in Montigen's emphasis on innovation. McCullar says the transition is going smoothly. "When people share the same core values, we see much less conflict." K agreed that part of the problem in her lab - in addition to a cluster of strong personalities - was that members didn't share a feeling of common purpose. She charged her team with drafting a lab philosophy. As a first step they developed a mission statement: Our lab's goals are to explore the mechanisms of brain development, to produce important new insights into these mechanisms, and to bring a standard of excellence to all that we do as individual scientists and as a laboratory. Lab members cooperate and collaborate in planning and carrying out experiments using the following guidelines. The fundamental standard is to treat others with respect, courtesy, and consideration and to treat the laboratory as a professional environment. Over several months K's group, with help from the university's ombudsman, drafted a laboratory philosophy, which includes behavior guidelines such as courtesy and consideration, conflict resolution, cooperation and collaboration. The guidelines explain the basics of sharing equipment and reagents, the appropriate setting to handle a dispute, and how to share research ideas. The philosophy also lays out the format for laboratory meetings, the rules of keeping a lab notebook, and the preparations a member must make before graduating from the lab. All lab members signed the philosophy and K says it made a difference; people behaved better and the screaming matches ceased. Those lab members who were teetering on the edge of leaving the lab have stayed on because of the less hostile work environment. Now all incoming lab members are required to read and sign the lab rules. "What I would advise people to do proactively is to draft a lab statement, visit that with your lab periodically, and spend time with lab members a few times a year and ask: Are there things we could be doing to function better as a group?" Sometimes, the answer to that question might be, rather than bringing lab members together, letting some go. IF YOU CAN'T FIX, FIRE
It was Professor W's first year running her own lab (W asked to remain anonymous to protect the identity of her postdoc). She had moved to a prestigious research institution on the West Coast to start her cell biology laboratory. At the time she was involved in a fierce race with another lab to produce data and land funding. The pressure was on, and Professor W was relying on her only (and first) postdoc to rally behind her and finish the experiments on time. But instead, she recalls, "He'd rather leave at 5 o'clock and take long lunch breaks and relax on the weekends, even at times of high intensity. We had a real disconnect in terms of our commitment to the project." As W's research progressed, her relationship with her postdoc deteriorated. W brought her concerns to the postdoc, and "He looked at me like my priorities were screwed up." W realized then that she had hired the wrong postdoc. She needed someone who cared as much about the work as she did and would be willing to put in the hours when it was necessary. W found herself in a difficult situation. As a new junior faculty member she was the same age as her postdoc, and her first attempt as a mentor and independent scientist was stumbling. "If not him, who else could do the work?" W remembers thinking as she tried to make a decision. W made up her mind: "You realize sometimes [that] no one is better than someone who is wasting your resources. So I fired him." The lab management experts agree: If a relationship is not working out, first, let the person know, and if the situation does not improve, send them packing. Sometimes the solution is obvious. If a lab member is abusive or disruptive, firing that person is imperative, says Cohen. Bruce Freeman, chair of the Pharmacology Department at the University of Pittsburgh, found himself in that position after he learned a postdoc was showing up to work intoxicated and harassing other lab members. But in the more common situation where a lab member is simply difficult to work with, the best resolution is not always easy. "You need to make a decision. On the whole, is this person of more benefit than harm to my lab?" Cohen says. For W, the decision to fire her postdoc turned out to be the right one, she says. She was able to gather the data she needed in time without being preoccupied by an unhealthy relationship in the laboratory. W says she knows now, after almost two decades of managing a lab, that there could have been an easy way to prevent the disconnection she experienced between her and her postdoc's expectations: Lay them out from the beginning. Had she done that, she might have been able to filter out someone who was only willing to work normal hours (something she couldn't tolerate) and find someone who enjoyed putting in nights and weekends. "I think [my expectations] were fair," W says, "but how can they be fair if I don't lay them out?" LET THEM LEAD
On an unseasonably warm Friday morning in December members of Freeman's laboratory trickle into the conference room for their biweekly lab meeting. Those gathered sleepily sip their coffee or yerba mat? as Freeman runs through lab business, assigning a mentor for a summer undergraduate from Pakistan, and announcing a new journal in which the lab might want to publish. Postdoc Nick Khoo loads up a Power Point presentation and begins his talk on the regulation of endothelial nitric oxide synthase. Shortly into his presentation Khoo's labmates begin to ask questions, suggest experiments, offer alternative ways of interpreting the data. The momentum builds slowly, but by the time the third presenter begins the mood is positively excited: Banter flies around the table as conversations spin off simultaneously. "Sometimes the meetings can go for four hours," says Paul Baker, a research assistant professor and one of the lab members who has been there the longest. "Everyone has really strong opinions, and lab meetings can get pretty heated," says graduate student Alison Groeger. "Our lab is really motivated and ambitious, but that can cause conflict." Baker remembers the days when lab meetings consisted of walking into Freeman's office unannounced and showing him raw data. But after an exciting discovery on the anti-inflammatory properties of nitrated fatty acids, Freeman's lab swelled from four to twelve and moved from the University of Alabama to the University of Pittsburgh. As research projects multiplied and new members entered the lab, the group went through what Baker calls growing pains. "It's a real challenge to take energetic, enthusiastic people and channel their energy to the same goal." The lab's structure is top-heavy, with most members at postdoc or research assistant professor levels. With each person having strong opinions about the direction of research and the way the lab should function, tensions emerged after the move to Pittsburgh. Part of the challenge, Freeman says, is that many of his lab members were anxious to take on more leadership roles. "People realized they weren't getting enough of an opportunity to get feedback on their results and discuss the next things to do." Though he usually lets lab members work out problems on their own, Freeman decided to step in and make some changes.
To find a solution to the tension in his lab Freeman relied on two decades of mentoring and advice from family members in business management. He looked around at his group: a biochemist, a physician, a molecular biologist, and others, each having a unique scientific background. Freeman offered to some of the senior lab members leadership posts over minigroups of research projects. "Giving others the opportunity to lead is essential," says John Galland, director of the Lab Management Institute at UC, Davis. They can feel ownership over a certain part of the lab, and exercise their leadership skills. Freeman set it up so that lab members elect team leaders. They will be responsible for organizing weekly team meetings and progress reports on a lab-only website, which Freeman calls the lab blog. "I think the benefit from that is, on a weekly basis, someone will have the responsibility to demonstrate performance or success and [therefore] any problems will become clear." Group leaders in Freeman's lab are looking forward to having distinct roles, and the solution seems to have improved communication in the lab. To top it off, the frequency of those marathon lab meetings has been halved. HIRE RIGHT
Simply being aware that communication and interpersonal dynamics are important to the functioning of a laboratory, as Professors K, W, and Freeman demonstrated, is the most important thing a PI can do, says Cohen. Many of Cohen's clients are in the private sector, which he says is far more advanced than academia in terms of appreciating and sculpting interpersonal skills among its scientists. "It is an organizational necessity. If you can't function as a member of a group in the private sector, you will have little or no future," Cohen says. Christopher Flores, the Analgesics Team Leader at Johnson & Johnson Pharmaceutical Research & Development in Spring House, Pa., says he received much more training in people management at his company than when he was a professor at academic institutions. This included mentorship from experienced managers, reading and web-based materials, and workshops with outside consultants. "There's a great deal of attention to the quality of life of the employee here, including how effective management and conflict resolution comes to bear on that," Flores says. Mary Yaroshevsky-Glanville, vice president for human capital at Anadys Pharmaceuticals in San Diego, says the most effective practice for making sure research teams run smoothly is to hire people who fit in well and who have strong interpersonal skills. Within industry, academic scientists have a less than favorable reputation when it comes to interpersonal skills in the laboratory, says Yaroshevsky-Glanville. "We rarely hire people just out of academia," she says. "We've turned down many people who were technically perfect, but didn't fit." Yaroshevsky-Glanville recalls a search to fill a position that lasted two and half years. "We found someone who was stellar technically. But we knew that he was going to be difficult and create conflict if he came on. And we said no." The search continued for months until the company found the right fit. "It was worth it," Yaroshovsky-Glanville says, "Had we hired the wrong person it would not have worked out." Sometimes academic laboratories don't have the luxury to hire for interpersonal as well as technical skills, says Cohen. One way to avoid conflict when technical skills are the primary selecting factor is to take the Freeman approach: Hire people with distinct sets of skills and design projects where they won't be competing. About five years ago Joseph Lakowicz, director of the Center for Fluorescence Spectroscopy at the University of Maryland, was nearing a cross road in his scientific career. "I felt like I was approaching the limits of classical fluorescence ... because we had done it all. I was coming to a wall where I would have to move into some applications, but my mind isn't there. I like principles." Lakowicz came up with a vision to direct his pursuits toward plasmon-controlled fluorescence, and he began to hire a team that would take him there. He recruited a thin-film technologist, a spectroscopist, a theorist, and others. The lab publishes more than a paper a month, says Lakowicz, and he says the team is much more collaborative because each person relies on other labmates' varied expertise. "I paid more attention to this set of hires and it really paid off." A DEMAND FOR TRAINING
Although conflict might be an intrinsic part of working in a research laboratory, PIs have greater opportunity to improve the way they manage relationships among their lab members. Universities are beginning to pay more attention to personnel management in the laboratory and to offer management courses, mostly targeted to junior faculty or postdocs. The HHMI and the BWF helped spark this trend by starting a partnership among about a dozen science organizations and academic institutions to implement lab management programs. Several years ago John Galland started the Lab Management Institute at UC, Davis, which offers a certificate program in laboratory leadership and management and is open to researchers from other institutions. The Institute also offers a two-day workshop program in lab management for UC, Davis postdocs, with follow-up meetings every month for one year. This spring, the Institute is starting a laboratory leadership course for graduate students. Galland says no data are available yet to indicate how much impact these courses are having on laboratory productivity, but he is confident that they make a difference. "Most of our data are anecdotal," Galland says. "I can go in and see from observation the changes in a lab - whether those changes have resulted in more publications, fewer incidents of noncompliance to regulation, fewer people missing days of work." At a stylish Thai restaurant in Pittsburgh's Shadyside neighborhood, a group of young University of Pittsburgh faculty members gather around for dinner. Each has received training in lab management and conflict resolution either at the university or the BWF/HHMI. Without it, says Catherine Baty, a research assistant professor in the School of Medicine's Cell Biology and Physiology Department, "it's like half your training is missing." For her, conflict - in particular, scientific conflict - is positive. The training helped her recognize the nuances of communicating her excitement. "I don't see it as inherently negative. You take somebody on as an equal and discuss the ideas. I know there are other people in my lab who hate it and I modulate it for them," Baty says. For Steven Wendell, a research assistant professor in the School of Dental Medicine, the training helped him deal with a conflict over shared equipment between his lab and another lab. In the past, Wendell says, he would not have taken the time to engage his lab member to understand the situation and find the best solution. "I would have come in and said, look, this is what we're going to do and that's that ... I think my technician would have been frustrated about the situation still and frustrated with me that I wasn't engaging her."
Joan Lakoski, the assistant vice chancellor for academic career development at the University of Pittsburgh, began the three-day workshop for junior faculty and postdocs in 2006. The interest was so strong that the course had to turn away a number of associate professors, and in its second year enrollment will expand by 25%. In evaluations of the course, attendees ranked the session on managing interpersonal conflict as the most valuable of more than a dozen sessions. "If every university provided training on conflict resolution to their faculty," Lakoski says, "it would be great. There would be a lot less problems." Resources
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Return to Top comment: Sadness by PI [Comment posted 2007-11-27 17:51:06] I can only say that I feel great sadness that there is any abuse at all in a research environment. We should always remember our youthful ambitions and dreams to excel in research, and not to allow our expectations to exceed the reality. Everyone desires recognition and, ultimately, happiness in their research work. We need to remember this, and that we are all extremely fortunate to have the opportunity to work in research. This is a work environment that encourages independent, original thinking (and you do have the freedom to think or believe whatever you like, regardless of others' beliefs). Go back even further, and recognize that we are also exceptionally fortunate to have been educated at such a high level. The vast majority of people in the world do not even have the slightest chance of ever reaching high school, never mind tertiary education.
I know I sound overwhelmingly positive and trying to make the best of what seems like a bad situation, but I also came from an abusive laboratory environment where my supervisor continually abused her students and technicians. She told people off about every tiny thing that happened, including missing styrofoam containers in the cold room, the liquid nitrogen cylinder depleting accidentally, and even late library books. It got to the point that her lab staff and students left science altogether and never wanted to return to research again. I kept hoping it would be better in other institutions and travelled to several of them around the world. I found that, actually, she wasn't that bad and there are many others who are far worse. It was a shock to realize that, and very saddening. I realized then that the main reason that people are attracted to research is not the money, but the personal glory and recognition that they could achieve. Papers published in high impact journals, grants awarded, invitations to speak at international meetings all serve to reinforce the ego and encourage its growth. Competitive behavior is amply rewarded, which is particularly painful for others if it is at their expense. These are negative human attributes that are ultimately destructive for each individual and can only be balanced by remembering that we are doing research for the sake of all people on Earth. Each one of us needs to dedicate our efforts at the end of each day to all other living creatures for the sake of increasing our knowledge of the world around us and improving their health and wellbeing. Return to Top comment: work weekends and nights on menial pay by mz [Comment posted 2007-09-04 00:32:59] that is less than that of the janitor's and the secretary's. how many PIs are sympathetic to the postdoc's situation ? Return to Top comment: the Know it all graduate student. by ssss [Comment posted 2007-03-01 19:14:26] Sometimes the conflicts in lab comes from people who think great of themselves and treat others badly. I worked with a caucasian graduate student, who thinks that he knows it all and all the immigrant GS and PD's have brains of ants.
I think "mentorless" belongs to this same category of person. I am surprised that "the scientist" allowed this posting of diminuting the PI's in such a rude way. In my view People like this drives the PI to act rude, which then becomes the character of the PI. I am not supporting the PI's rude behaviour's. Post-docs and graduate students should also look into their souls before belting the PI's. Return to Top comment: The good, the bad, and the ugly by PI [Comment posted 2007-02-28 16:44:52] Running a lab is a two-way street. There are hopelessly abusive PI's and troublemaking postdocs. There are also responsible PIs trying to balance conflicting issues, and eager postdocs who want to be a positive part of a community.
As long as success in this career is measured by papers and grants, and NOT by the quality of the training or the people you turn out, there is a selection for ill behavior and "me-first". Abused postdocs become abusers. What to do? Remember that certain places and reputations recruit certain kinds of people. Determine your personal values and seek people who will fit. Outstanding science is done at lots of different sorts of places by lots of different sorts of people. I found this article extremely useful. I know that I keep learning from my lab group and I hope I keep improving as a mentor. But if my career isn't also moving in a positive direction, I can't help my trainees' careers. It's not just about them. Ideally, everyone recognizes that its interdependent. I was a mid-career PI with a top pedigree who finally left a very prominent institution because *I* was being abused. It was increasingly difficult to mentor my trainees in an environment that mistreated me as a PI. Not surprising that if institutional expectations of the faculty are unrealistic, then the faculty transmit this down the line. I recognized that I was unable to change things, and the only positive way to deal with the situation was to leave it for a healthier environment. unfortunately, many of the people working for me preferred the reputation of the abusing institution and chose not to follow me. They chose to stay in an environment where trainees are used up and thrown out, because of the "name". Yet I have better facilities, nicer colleagues, and a much more positive enivironment at my not-quite-as-big-a-name university. There are lots of good labs out there for trainees. They just may not be at the biggest name schools. Return to Top comment: Stop complaining and do something about it then! by Happy Postdoc [Comment posted 2007-02-27 02:36:49] To mentorless,
I'm sorry your experiences were so wretched, but what I learned is that graduate school is about not only advancing your scientific knowlegde and skills but also learning what you are willing and not willing to tolerate. Everyone has options. If you don't like you PI then LEAVE! Why is that so hard for people to understand? I switched PIs twice as a graduate student and finally found a professor with the similar work ethic and scientific philosophy. Things weren't always rosey but we managed to make it work. Remember there are lots of PIs to choose from. Return to Top comment: This hasnᅡメt changed in decades either by Still Anonymous [Comment posted 2007-02-24 03:32:48] I am very grateful to The Scientist for providing a forum where these topics can be aired. I will say upfront that the majority of my time in academia was very rewarding. But my goodness, I commented on last yearᅡメs article on the plight of postdocs and how nothing has changed in decades. Apparently, the attitudes of some PIs and professors toward their charges havenᅡメt changed either.
I am a Japanese-American and I spent much of the 1980s as a graduate student and the first half of the 1990s as a postdoc. I recall my former major professor chuckling after he joked that my skin color gave me the appearance of someone with hepatitis (Asians are yellow people). On other occasions, he called my work ᅡモamateurishᅡヤ, told me that I was ᅡモtoo honestᅡヤ, and said that ᅡモpeople help their own.ᅡヤ He also reminded me that at least he gave me credit for my work. During a graduate seminar series, while a student gave a talk on her research, my former major professor in the front row said, ᅡモThis research is sh*t.ᅡヤ These years of enlightenment were followed by my first postdoc position. There, the chairman of the medical school department characterized my mother as a prostitute and used the term ᅡモJap cars.ᅡヤ His commentaries were the results of disagreements that we had over the science and my (too honest?) opinions of a less than honest graduate student who gracefully moved on to a postdoc position at the Mayo Clinic. But they were mere words. For two years after I left his laboratory, he was unwilling to submit my manuscripts for publication and explained that my work needed more review. This harmed my career development, including being barred from interviewing for an assistant professorship in the Department of Microbiology at Oregon State University. Of course, he did not hesitate to publish his own papers on the cell culture technique that I helped to perfect. By the way, I was supported by a competitive NIH National Research Service Award that I received through a grant proposal that was largely based on my ideas. But true to his word about credit, my former major professor intervened, and within three months after his phone call, my first postdoctoral paper was in press. As for staff scientists, I remember comments about my not being a real American, that there were too many Asians in the universities, and that the Japanese were invading America economically because they lost World War Two. When the Japanese economy sank during the mid-1990s, the anti-Japanese rhetoric thankfully subsided. Japan-bashing became passᅢᄅ and I was apparently no longer a foreigner. In a way, this was progress. But only the enemy du jour had changed. An assistant professor confided to me that they planned to hire a ᅡモforeigner to do the dirty work.ᅡヤ This ᅡモforeignerᅡヤ, a scientist of Iranian descent, was fired from his job after reporting to his supervisor about possible research fraud in their transplant lab. And a Chinese-American staff scientist that I was acquainted with was arrested for espionage and eventually tried in court for stealing university property. He was quickly acquitted. Since I left academia years ago, I am uncertain of the treatment of non-Caucasian graduate students and postdocs by todayᅡメs PIs, professors, and staff. However, I am curious about their welfare because of current apprehensions over the growing economic power of China, the second rise of Japanese cars over General Motors, and our war in the Middle East. I am also perplexed and discouraged by the seeming lack of progress in improving the learning and work environments of our supposed best-and-brightest. Perhaps, new students, postdocs, staff, and faculty constantly go over the same territory. Or maybe nothing will change for even more decades until the taxpaying public that supports higher education demands better. Most likely, the university is just another human institution where things could be better and things could be worse. Return to Top comment: Its a two-way street by postdoc [Comment posted 2007-02-21 09:49:06] I agree with "Trainees must proactively find good mentors". I have a good mentor, I have been with her at the start of my PhD, and I am still with her now doing my postdoc. My mentor and I knew each other very well, we communicate with each other on our expectations, hers on her expectation from me as a student and subsequently as a postdoc, and mine on my expectation from her as a mentor and supervisor. I am constantly given the opportunity to present my work at international conferences. She will answer my questions and hold meetings with me when I encoutered problems. At times when she didn't know the answer, she will try her best to help sove the problems. We always have a two-way discussion on the various ways to solve problems. Of course, in terms of important issues, eg, lab issues or other major decision, I will listened and respect her decision. Of course, not everthing are rosy. We do have conflicts, but it get resolve quickly because we understand that it is not good for the working environment. I have personally encountered "bad" mentor. But I realize if you try a different way of approaching him/her, the experience won't be that horrid. So all in all, I believe the conversation and interaction between a mentor and a mentee are important to maintain a good working relationship.
Return to Top comment: One reason the bad phenotype likely persists.. by freezing [Comment posted 2007-02-16 23:35:15] A recent conversation with labmates following a visit from a guest speaker, sparked some discussion about the selection that goes on in science for particular personalities. Our lab is predominantly women (10 to 2) where the PI is an older man with a definite bad phenotype problem. We drew some correlation to the attrition of women at higher ranks and the attrition of "normal people". Sane people don't put up with this behavior and disrespect. Science will continue to be manned by bullies as long as there is no checks in place. PIs have free reign and continue to lose touch with the outside world and standards of behavior. Unfortunately its a self perpetuating system. Return to Top comment: Unrealistic expectations by work. [Comment posted 2007-02-16 08:28:29] I note W managed to get the results on her own after firing the postdoc. Maybe if she'd kept him they could both have taken the weekend off. My own enterprise is praising staff who are cancelling family holidays in order to work. Those who work effectively and do a good day's work in normal hours are regarded with suspicion by those who think longer hours means more work.
Return to Top comment: It is the genotype by Disgusted Professor [Comment posted 2007-02-14 19:46:48] To fed-up postdoc,
I believe it is the genotype of most of us, not the phenotype, that at the end takes over when the conditions for its expression are right. Power and vanity, a combination that so many of us cannot resist practicing when the opportunity presents itself. In science today, a PI has the money, thus the power over students and postdocs, and his/her peers and administrators, all catering to his/her vanity. Today's PI is not the PI of 30-40 years ago, since then, being funded by the NIH was a cinch; anyone could get a grant. Today, with 8% funding rate, the PIs are a very selected crowd, in which most of them are so impressed with themselves, their genotype is immediately expressed. Return to Top comment: Where do they come from? by Fed-up Post-doc [Comment posted 2007-02-14 16:37:28] The majority of the comments suggest that bad PIs are primarily responsible for bad lab environments. What I don't understand is where these bad PIs come from. Despite all the workshops, guidelines, and training most institutes offer, the bad PI phenotype persists.
This is interesting from an evolutionary standpoint. One could suppose that abused and mistreated trainees would see the error of their mentors and develop into good, decent people. It therefore follows that the bad PI phenotype should eventually disappear. However, this isn't the case. It's likely that, like abused children, these trainees are growing into bad PIs in their own right. I think the moral of the story is to not become what you once beheld. Return to Top comment: There is always someone worse off by Marie Cooper [Comment posted 2007-02-14 08:09:16] I read the comment by mentorless in open mouthed astonishment. I thought I had a bad supervisor for my PhD, but oh dear me the man was a saint by comparison with mentorless's experiences. My supervisor, a newly minted professor at a London teaching hospital, confined himself to being rude, absent, penny pinching and obstructive. Introducing his PhD student (me) to a visiting professor as "the lowest form of life" and insisting that PhD students did not need a place to sit and work, access to a computer or anywhere to eat a hasty lunch or grab a cup of coffee.
He was every bit as charming to his postdocs, secretary and laboratory technicians. He became almost incandescent with fury when a very efficient lab manager left because she had been offered a better employment package elsewhere and accused her of disloyalty. Like many in his position this man was convinced that all anyone was there to do was support and contribute to his personal success. Although contractual working hours did exist, in fact the building was locked at other times, he insisted on having lab meetings at 7:30am on Monday mornings because he had a clinic later in the morning. When informed that two postdocs each had about an hours commute in the mornings and evenings he simply told them to drive instead. His attitude to the people he had responsibility for served to unite us as a group far more effectively than any set of laboratory rules ever could have. No doubt this now established professor continues to treat those employed in his lab with contempt. He was, as far as I am concerned, a perfect example of someone promoted to the limits of their incompetence. No amout of academic achievement excuses either atrocious behaviour or disrespectful and abusive treatment of those in junior positions. Like mentorless, however, I am aware that such people prosper at the expense of others. Being unscrupulous pays. Return to Top comment: Trainees must proactively find good mentors by Grad student with good mentor [Comment posted 2007-02-13 20:27:32] My sympathies to 'mentorless' and 'disgusted professor' for getting the bad end of all their deals.
However, for 'mentorless' to say the author of the article is "hallucinating" is beyond rude and judgemental and reeks of what 'mentorless' is complaining about. I have a very good, supportive mentor. But being a good mentor, is a two-way street; the mentee does need to allow the mentor to become supportive. I am quite aware of my PI's personality, expectations, and the scope of my project and he of mine. And likewise with the other grad students, postdocs, and staff. I am not going to bother him (too much) when he is writing a grant, unless it is an emergency; and he will answer all my questions and hold meetings with me, but if he is writing a grant, he will tell me what time he will be available. But, like everyone else, I have encountered conflict, but those were either minor, of short duration, and fixed quickly. I personally know that 7 people in my starting class of ~70 (who split into 6+ different biological programs at one university) had terrible mentors and some of the students fell threw the cracks despite the university's support policies. You may ask, what constitutes "terrible" for a mentor beyond screaming (or silent) tantrums, lying, going behind peoples' backs, going through a another's computer to change data, stealing people's data (including attributing results to someone other than the person who did the work), racism, sexism, sexual harrassment, etc. Well, here's a list: (1) exploiting trainees do work for his or her biotech or diagnostic company; (2) refusing to meet with the trainee at least twice a month; (3) refusing to look into unrepeatable, and what could be fraudulent data by another lab member; (4) refusing to change the trainee's project after the above occurs; (5) kicking out a trainee when the trainee reports the above (3) and (4) fishy behaviors to department chairperson and director; (6) withdrawing guaranteed funding (when trainee is in good standing); (7) starting an affair at the detriment of other trainees' progress; and (8) blatantly lying to other faculty and colleagues about any of the above. Over the years, university policies at most institutions, have grudgingly changed to help the grieving grad student, postdoc, or assistant professor, but, trainees need to be proactive about the environment and bosses they are going to spend more than 3 years with. For graduate students, laboratory rotations are THE best way to know whether you fit into the science, work ethic, social atmosphere of the group, and whether the PI is a good mentor, and for most doctorate programs, several lab rotations are a requirement . Unfortunately, postdocs can't do rotations, but to-be-fellows need to be proactive in finding out more about the PI and the lab atmosphere. Does everyone have individual projects, or does the PI pit lab underlings against each other? Are postdocs lab technicians for grad students or vice versa? Is the insitution supportive of postdocs (does it have a postdoctoral affairs office and postdoc association)? Can you stand a screaming boss? If you're the first grad student or postdoc in the lab, everything needs to be planned out before hand. The trainee needs to find out how much time is going to be spent "setting up" the lab and for how many years monetary support is available or if s/he needs to write his or her own grant proposal. Grad students need to inform their bosses about classes, seminars, training requirements, and studying for qualifying exams, and back that up with a letter from the chairperson and/or guidelines booklet; the PI must outline his expectations. Postdocs and PIs must take similar actions. If your boss doesn't want to engage in those kinds of agreements, then that already puts him or her in the "bad mentor" category. Sometimes, it is even more of a hardship if you and your coworkers are in conflict. If you develop conflict with someone in the lab, other than the PI, either scientifically or socially, you should let your boss be aware of the situation (for personal conflicts, you need not go into detail). But, that said, only a good mentor will listen to you. It's the trainee's responsibility to find a good mentor. The definition of "good mentor" is different between everybody, but we can all agree on what makes one terrible. I am lucky that there are so many different types of good mentors at my university, and they have shown, not only support for their trainees, but other students, and in checking the inappropriate behaviors of their colleagues. The whole environment matters, from the lab to the department to the university. Return to Top comment: How do PIs think of their labs and the people within by S. Dunaliella [Comment posted 2007-02-13 19:23:36] In my opinion and experience, science field needs more humanity.
Face it, conflicts exist wherever more than one person exists. PIs who want their utopian labs also need to be perfect for everything. Anyone could do it? No! Coz - nothing, nobody is perfect. You want your new students, new postdocs could read your minds and think of your ways? It is impossible. If the newbees could do that, faculties won't be necessary. Acknowledge it - we all start from the beginner level. Have some compassion for each other. PIs start new labs, for what? To do research? Then spend your time on it. Research is not as simple as tubes and poison chemicals. If the people who are doing the research can't do it for the sake of the project itself, what are you going to do? As a job, doing science is nothing more complicated than anything else. Let's just get the work done as a team. Nobody want to waste his/her life on suffering. Think of the organs in a human body. How amazing they work as a whole - to compensate for each other! Can we learn some insights from our own bodies, scientists? I believe that science training is not only about the techniques. It is more important to gain the ability to find out what we want and to clear a path to it. Return to Top comment: what do we expect from people who are selected for their scientific but not human abilities by Post-doc [Comment posted 2007-02-13 18:18:15] It is interesting that the subject is raised, in summary, PIs are not trained to supervise people and care for a group, generally speaking academics tend to believe that the money they use are theirs and that they have abolute power over everybody under their supervision. If they were working for a company (not a perfect place either) they would of course realize that they are all employed by the same entity, they have to respect rules and laws and actually demanding extra work without compensation (free time or money) is not legal or ethical, after all PI is going to get the grant money not the postdoc.
Employment law courses (at least in Europe where such laws still exist, in US human rights and ethics would be a good alternative) and management courses should be compulsory, in some country it is necesssary to pass exams to be allowed to be a PI, may it is a reasonable idea. Return to Top comment: Criticism is hard to give by Michael Buratovich [Comment posted 2007-02-13 18:10:18] The simple fact is that giving criticism is just as much an art as accepting it. Not everyone has the maturity to disagree agreeably. Return to Top comment: Professor by Disgusted Professor [Comment posted 2007-02-13 17:47:55] I must fully agree with the comments of "mentorless." My experience over the past 25 years as a tenured professor, and especially over the past 12 years, is that PIs are all about their own careers, success and reputation, and that the institution's administration will provide them with all the necessary cover and backing when suspicion against the PI arises over misconduct, mistreatment of postdocs or students, forbidden romantic relationships, etc. There are many disgrantled students and postdocs like "mentorless" who have never been heard because the bottomline today is the most imortant item in academia and is being protected by all means necessary, including loss of careers of postdocs and junior faculty members. Return to Top comment: Is K. Grens for real? by Mentorless [Comment posted 2007-02-13 13:49:14] The piece is vacuous. Almost no PI cares about laboratory harmony. I think the PIs of the story must be fictitious.
I have met only one PI (Principal investigator/Lab head/Group leader/Professor) having integrity. Moreover, I observe 95% stomp, abuse, and manipulate their trainees in order to further their "careers." Unfortunately, PIs' training aptitude is disconnected from PIs' success. And most are incompetent. 1. I graduated very quickly (4 yrs.) because my committee chair was horrified at my "mentor's" disparaging me behind my back. I got the hell out of there - never explaining to my chair that my "mentor" is a lying, backstabbing, false-rumor-mongerer and that the department is a dung-heap. I graduated with 6 papers (3 1st authors). One PI in my doctoral department was so nasty the Univ. appointed an external lab monitor. This PI later became chair and then the dept. was awarded a NIH PhD training grant!! Later, this PI publicly admitted not including half of a study's data in the published paper because they were "negative." There were no repercussions - not even a formal correction. Also, another dept. PI for years mistreated a trainee for showing previously published work was an artifact. No formal correction was published. 2. One postdoc "mentor" very nearly succeeded in publishing behind my back and under my name a misleading description of my project. Thank God the editor has integrity - the manuscript was modified. I thwarted this "mentor" in this instance only because I had increased my oversight upon learning he had succeeded in an earlier instance. 3. One postdoc "mentor" had half the talent of an ant. I got the projects working w/out "mentor" "advice" and in spite of the "mentor's" gross incompetence and spite (threatening my career, employment, bad recommendation; cussing while simultaneously gesturing obscenely, outright lying, continually complaining about my "progress"; refusing (yet) to provide a performance evaluation despite my and human resources' requests (in writing)). Complaints to the Dean produced a cover-up. This "mentor" later also tried to publish under my name behind my back. The manuscript was a disgrace. The "mentor" has also disparaged me to potential employers. The "mentor" failed to earn tenure and is no longer allowed to accept doctoral candidates. The PI must stay on merely because of successful grant writing. NIH must have way too much money if it can waste it on this PI. 4. Another "mentor" has the talent of 2 ants. But the temper tantrums have scared away students and the refusal to set aside ego has blocked progress. This PI successfully published a paper under my name against my wishes. There are mistatements. Science journal editors in general don't have much integrity (Many are/were PIs; go figure.). This "mentor" is tenured but studentless and grantless. What a role model! If only state taxpayers knew the high salaries of their employees-ants. None of the institutions in which I've labored gives an ant's ass about laboratory harmony. Papers, grants, and patents are all that matter. The research fraud cases that pop up all the time document my claim. Some examples follow. * The case of Elizabeth B Goodwin, PhD at Wisconsin: not one department faculty cared (noticed?) that Goodwin's students could not repeat what the lab had published - for 5 years! * The John L Ho case at Weill Medical/Cornell: the trainees in this lab also mutineed because of the PI's fraud. * The Luk van Parijs case at MIT: the trainees mutineed because of the fraud. * The Roger Pomerantz & Linxun Duan case at Jefferson Medical College: PI Pomerantz had lawyers chase 1 former postdoc (jobless and destitute) whistleblower around the country to serve a SLAPP suit. He also harassed and intimidated another lab member-whistleblower: attemting to depose his wife. I understand he even deposed/intimidated the editor of a journal which had published the fraudulent papers. JMC kept on this tenured PI even though he had to correct the papers to nothingness and JMC had to: refund one grant entirely, lose HHS-NIH "preferred" grant status, and submit to bureaucratic remedial oversight. JMC maintains there was no fraud: no retractions. And a JMC attorney, after it was all over, publicly accused whistleblower 1 of data tampering. HHS did nothing to Pomerantz and merely barred postdoc Duan from receiving grants for a few years - W/OUT a "finding of misconduct." Whistleblower 1 got $80k in a qui tam/False Claims Act settlement. * The following is from the transcript of Dr. Thereza Imanishi-Kari's DHHS hearing (appeal of ORI's research misconduct findings; Board docket A-95-33). CROSS EXAMINATION Charles Maplethorpe (MD, PhD; former Imanishi-Kari doctoral student) by Joseph Onek (attorney for Respondent), 13 September 1995 ... BY MR. ONEK: Q Dr. Maplethorpe, when did you first come to Dr. Imanishi-Kari's laboratory? A In January of '81. Q Isn't it true that Dr. Imanishi-Kari didn't start in the laboratory until March of 1981? A I don't know. Q When did you graduate medical school? A 1978. Q And why did you determine to get a Ph.D? A Because I became interested in immunology while I was in medical school. There was a phenomenon called H-2 restriction, MHC restriction, which was a new phenomenon that interested me. And since I wanted to -- I was fairly excited about it. I decided to enter graduate school immediately after medical school. Q Did you ever publish any papers in this area that you said you were interested in? A No. Q Did you ever publish any paper in connection with your Ph.D thesis? A No. Q Have you published any papers since? A I'm not sure if anyone has put my name on an abstract or anything like that, but I don't think so. Q Okay. Where were you before you came at MIT to Dr. Imanishi-Kari's lab? A I was in -- my advisor was Malcolm Gefter, but I was actually in the laboratory of Professor Michael Bevan which is right there on that same floor. Q And what was your experience in that laboratory? A In what sense? Q Well -- A I worked in the area of cellular immunology. I was growing T-cell lines. Q Did you feel that it was a successful experience in terms of getting towards your Ph.D and advancing your education? A The science was, yes. Q What was your relationship with Dr. Bevan? A I would say it was bad. Q And why was that? A Are you asking for details? Q I would like -- MR. CHRIST [ORI]: Objection. PRESIDING PANEL MEMBER FORD: Overruled. You can go ahead and answer, Dr. Maplethorpe. THE WITNESS: Okay. Dr. Bevan was having an affair with his graduate student, Pamela Fink, that poisoned the work environment for everyone in the laboratory. BY MR. ONEK: Q How did it poison your particular work? A My work? Q Yes. How did it poison your atmosphere or your work? A What happens in a situation like that, the graduate student who is having the affair with the professor becomes the favorite graduate student. And that person is able to influence the professor in various ways against other people. So, I would say a little bit of that took place. Q So, you believed -- did you believe that you personally were being disadvantaged or being unfavored by Dr. Bevan? A He called me a queer. Q Now, when did you come to -- you came to Dr. Imanishi-Kari's laboratory in 1981. Is that correct? A Yes. ... Q Did Dr. Imanishi-Kari sit on your Ph.D committee? A Yes, she did. Q How did she vote? Do you know? A No. She signed my thesis. Q Isn't it true that at one point you asked Dr. Imanishi-Kari to write you a reference and she refused? A Yes. Q And when was that? A That was after I defended my thesis, so it was in August of '85, as I recall. That's what I recall. Q And why did she tell you that she was refusing to? A She said I was very smart and that I didn't need her recommendation. Q And that's the sole reason that she gave for not writing your recommendation? A That's what she told me. ... Disgusting PIs!! I note that Dr. Maplethorpe finished his PhD prior to Dr. Margot O'Toole's challenge/beginning of Baltimore case. I also note that faculty-trainee romance is NOT uncommon - in my travels' observations. I also note that MIT Provost John Deutch - in Congressional testimony - claimed part of the Baltimore case's origins was "low quality trainees." I also note many bigshot PIs (including NAS members) closed ranks behind Baltimore and TIK W/OUT having examined the evidence. Also, MIT and Whitehead Inst. spent at least $0.5kk for their attorney, PR, and Congressional lobbying campaigns. I also note that Drs. Bevan and Fink are prospering mightily in the immunology research establishment. So are Drs. Baltimore and Imanishi-Kari. Probably the van Parijs case cost Baltimore the Caltech presidency. He resigned 3 Oct '05; Caltech fraud inquiry began 6 Oct; MIT fired van Parijs 27 Oct; and news media began coverage 28 Oct. He is now an Institute Professor with NIH grants and a $multi-million B & M Gates Foundation award. Two office of the president resignations: each in the wake of challenged published data! Do I hear 3? Usually, PIs suffer from severe blind-ambition, lack of integrity, and/or incompetence and institutions appreciate only publications, grants, and patents. I have in my formal training met only one (1) PI who demonstrated integrity. The piece's author, Kerry Grens must be hallucinating. Return to Top comment: Clear Expectations by Reader -- Grad Student [Comment posted 2007-02-02 21:31:03] Regarding the PI who fired her postdoc... Since she admits that she did not make it clear to her postdoc that she expected work on nights and weekends, I think it was incredibly unprofessional to fire him for only being willing to work 40 hours per week. There certainly could have been mitigating issues not mentioned in the article, but the unexpressed expectation of overtime is a failing on the part of the PI, not her employee. Return to Top comment: Lab Manager by Sue S. Sipkovsky [Comment posted 2007-02-02 17:30:51] A PI can avoid a lot of conflict by having a lab manager. Having what you need at your fingertips can assuage a lot of angst in the lab. A lab manger or lead technician brings continuity into the lab and helps conserve valuable resources. It also helps keep the most senior scientists in the group from playing a technicianᅡメs role in lab, which can lead to resentment and loss in productivity. I work closely, in a supportive role, with the research scientists and can spot trouble brewing more quickly than can the PI. I am also always available to lend a hand or an ear. Sometimes, my excitement over an experimentᅡメs progress is just what a scientist needs. Return to Top comment: Reader (Associate Professor) by Jugsharan Singh Virdi [Comment posted 2007-02-02 15:31:38] If a situation flares up in the lab, in my opinion it would be better to let it cool off for 2-3 days before taking up the whole isuue again and thrashing it out. You might take an altogather different view of the whole issue. |
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