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Citizens and the art of maintaining science
Posted by Elie Dolgin [Entry posted at 4th April 2008 01:59 PM GMT]
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Return to Top comment: If science were a "brand" then this would be called "engagement" by Eliene Augenbraun [Comment posted 2008-04-07 12:35:59] Professional scientists are never biased. Ever. (Really?)
Hmmm... to me worrying that amateur scientists are more biased than professionals indicates a bias.Of course there is bias - you live in an imperfect world and you just need to figure out how to deal with it. People who engage with a problem will tend to learn and do more about it. If the idea of research is to somehow better society, it seems to me that the method of collecting data is making a huge dent toward achieving that goal, by engaging large numbers of people with Global Climate Change, the brand. Marketers try very hard to engage people with advertisements, contests, and other activities. Global warming is now becoming a "brand" in the sense that large numbers of people recognize it, have feelings about it, want to engage with it. Perhaps the scientist's bias is that it is more important to collect data than to allow people to use data...? Return to Top comment: Participatory R&D by Nasar S.K.T. [Comment posted 2008-04-06 00:50:49] Our best wishes to Project Budburst for a good initiative.
Our experience in West Bengal State (India) with agricultureal and agriculture-related Participatory Research & Development (APR&D) has time and again showed that participation of stake holders in R&D programmes benefits all concerned. Work-for-free on data collection etc is not a priority matter with us. More importantly, field level research under less- or uncontrolled conditions leads the untrained - thus, unbiased - minds of farmers and other stakeholders to bring out perspectives and ideas otherwise overlooked by formally trained - and at times 'biased'- minds of scientists. Nevertheless, scientists' lab work under controlled conditions to analyse existing technologies and developed well-researched developmental protocols remains inevitably crucial. We believe that citizens' participation in selected research ventures would pay dividends and pop up grass-roots innovations and new paradigms. We support your worthy cause. Return to Top comment: there is no evidence of warming by anonymous poster [Comment posted 2008-04-05 15:47:39] if you are a scientist, you think:
co2 effects will be globally distributed warming will be globally distributed these two theorem are both not true by Giss data sets and trophoshere 500 m data sets in fact trophosphere data do not correspond to surface data this is the "data" for global warming it is widely available to all who look global warming is the biggest hoax on humanity that has ever existed. and represents a wealth transfer from the public to the few for no benefit I think you should examine the temperature data and read the climate literature Return to Top comment: Citizen Science and Giga perception by guy van elsacker [Comment posted 2008-04-04 22:21:29] Let's be clear.Science was and will never be an ultimate unchangeable wisdom.Science is rarely build up by mutual confirmation but rather by contradiction.
The idea of citizen science is no new. It exist over thousand of years, when our ancestors observed certain phenomenas looked for empiric confirmation and brought this observations over to the next generations. Only in the last century we cristalized science as a protected area only belonging to the few which where "allowed" to perform. Business interests with patents and (over)regulations in order to protect this patents and interests have the rare effect that they don't enhance science but inhibit science. This all to come to two very important parts of science that will never change, namely perception and deduction. This extremely important parts are the gigantic power of Citizen Science because millions of eyes will bring more then the "Selected" brains of the "real" scientists. Prof.Guy Van Elsacker Dr.Sc. Return to Top comment: My judgement is trustworthy by anonymous poster [Comment posted 2008-04-04 21:09:57] I'm not a "professional scientist". (I read The Scientist for general interest.) But I think that if I (or a thousand others like me) were to volunteer to gather data in an area of interest, I/we could be reasonably counted on to deliver reliable observations. We recognize the importance of research. This isn't like a website poll that gets flooded by hundreds of opinionated folks with some social/political agenda. If science were to reject the offerings of "amateur" observers, we'd know a lot less about incoming meteors and other phenomena. Return to Top comment: Encouraging citizen science observations by James Ketchum [Comment posted 2008-04-04 12:55:04] I think it's a great idea. Probably a trend for the future in many fields.
Global warming offsets need grassroots support. For example, global warming may be why plants in our garden (Santa Rosa, CA) appeared earlier this year, after a mild winter. Jim Ketchum, MD Comment on this blog |