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Why do clinical science grants lag?
Posted by Bob Grant [Entry posted at 15th July 2008 09:56 PM GMT]
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Return to Top comment: Definition of Clinical Research by anonymous poster [Comment posted 2008-07-21 20:35:36] I suspect that the definition of clinical research used in the study (resulting in 67% of applications) includes much more than the type of research that has been of concern to MDs. The definition most likely includes secondary data analyses and basic research on tissues from patients. The percentage of applications using active patient hands on research is much smaller and does not do well for more reasons than the lack of resubmissions. Return to Top comment: reply to not a surprise... by anonymous poster [Comment posted 2008-07-16 13:32:20] The "idea" of PhD researchers working with MDs is a good one and would appear to be a reasonable means of strengthening the grant awards for clinical research. In practice, however, it may not be easy to achieve this goal as a true collaborative endeavor between an MD and a PhD. I've tried this several times with my own basic science research program. Even with the stated desire by the Medical School administration to support research between basic scientists and MDs, the cold reality of it is that the MDs are given very little time away from their clinical duties to devote to research. And since we know that good research cannot be done "on the fly" (i.e. constantly running between the clinic and the laboratory), it seems such endeavors are nearly doomed from the outset. Return to Top comment: not a surprise... by anonymous poster [Comment posted 2008-07-16 11:59:31] Most physicians are not required to carry out research during their training, so experimental design and addressing all the annoying details that are required are not their forte. They have little time for sustained concentration (after all, their patients SHOULD come first) so grant writing is done in bits or by other people. Managing a research team is difficult, another skill that is not studied in medical school. If they do not get the grant, there is often no incentive for re-writing the grant. And finally, if push comes to shove, they have a degree that allows them to set up shop and practice privately.
It seems to me that there is a need to train Ph.D.s to do clinical research in conjunction with physicians and medical centers. Ph.D. scientists cannot work with patients directly (that is what MDs are for!!), but they could be co-PIs with MDs. They could lend their expertise in research design and lab management as well. Comment on this blog |