W.M. Grogan's commentary (The Scientist, May 11, 1992, page 12) in reply to Radcliffe College President Linda Wilson (The Scientist, Jan. 20, 1992 , page 3; March 16, 1992, page 11) epitomizes the "old boys' club" all over again. Grogan and male scientists who share his views are going to go down kicking and screaming the whole way, afraid to try anything new, showing no respect for Wilson's achievements and authority.

I sit through meetings in which no one listens to each other because all participants are defending their own position. There's no inclusive participation. Grogan states that "increased participation... can improve the quality of science only if highly qualified and committed women and minorities are attracted." What constitutes quality in the first place? Interest level? Scientific curiosity?

Achievements follow interest—there's the motivation for quality. There's nothing to be lost by sharing the interest, allowing women...

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